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	islam123098 \| December 17, 2007 listion u pieace of shit..i dont care what ur fucked up faith is ALL i know is ISLAM is the best religion in the world ur religion is NOTHING to mine we are growing we are in Jihad and we are not evil people our god does not LIE our book (Quran) is not changed in any offcial WAY now shut the fuck up about Israel because thats a terrorist Organization. Allahu Akbar!!
	ramosay \| December 16, 2007 lets put this at the test ? 4 example the whole muslims and christians agree to chose a day to get the whole QURANS from around the world and the whole bibles any verssions of it nothing left of any verssion ? and put the whole QURAN and the bible into the sea right ? what well happen ? i tell you ,, the QURAN WILL BACK IN 2 OR 3 DAYS AS IT WAS BEFOR ,,HOW ? we will bring a muslim from china and 1 from africa 1 from america 1 from india ,,and they all will read from ch: 1 , ALFATIHA '' TO ANNAS '' the lst chpter NO DIFFERENCE ,,QURAN WILL BACK !!! but the bible will be lost and NO MORE ,, you know why ? coz first of all no 1 knows what the bible is 2nd theres to many verssions of bible 3rd no 1 is agree on the same bible coz they all have their own bible right ?
	ramosay \| December 16, 2007 did you know QURAN revealed to our prophet in period of 23 years and it was memorised and perserved by muslims at the same time it got revealed !!!!not only memorised ,,but actually followed the rules came for the muslims from allah , and they were reciting it in 5 time prayers , exactly like todays muslims ,,,in evry muslim today at least 1 person memorised the whole QURAN the rest memorised at least half of it !!! so that is the reason QURAN never was changed or rewrite or got lost ,, coz it was written in heart and in minds of muslims by memorising !!! but for christians no one knows what bible is ,,,and its impossible to memorise bible ,,first they have so many verssions second they are not the same 3rd no one is agree what bible is and the texts are not the same !!
	ramosay \| December 16, 2007 the first table of contence to the bible that reads the same as the contence to the bible now DATES FROM THE YEAR (367)MORE THEN (300)YEARS AFTER JESUS , finaly they they decided which books belong to bible ,,,,,point (2)the bible is in dead languages and the QURAN IS IN LIVING LANGUAGE WHICH (120 MILLIONPPL SPEAKS ARABIC ,THE LANGUAGE OF QURAN,,,,IN OTHER HAND THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN IN ANCIENT ARAMIC ANCIENT HEBREW AND ANCIENT GREEK, WHICH NO BODY SPEAKS ,,only a handfull of schlores knows it,,,,,
	ramosay \| December 16, 2007 we can see today theres so many verssions of bible are available and the some old bibles lives out some of the words in new bible and some new bible lives words from old bible`s, and the bible is not the same thing as QURAN at least for 3 reasons , (1)the QURAN has always been in the hands of his ppl , at the time of prophet his desciples and others memoraised it and wrote down no body ever disagreeid on what ever is the contence is ,,,,and when the prophet MUHAMMAD (SAW)died and his desciples met and agreeied by gethering all the writings of the QURAN and no body disputed it and no body aarguied about the contence or anything ,,,,, but the bible dosnt have this history , and the bible always been the property of the church not its ppl right ?
	gpt500 \| December 16, 2007 to ramosay: I appreciate your energy to write so much as you can see it makes it hard to have a meaningful dialogue. As for me and on my channel. I would prefer that we keep our discussions to a comment or two in the future. and if you must comment on something requiring a long explanation you email me. I look forward to dicussing whatever you want in that forum. Thanks
	gpt500 \| December 16, 2007 ramosay says well my friend ,, did you know non of the writers of the new testments wrote their last name ? THEY ALL SAID ACCORDING TO , ACCORDING TO ,,NON OF THEM NEVER PUT THEIR LAST NAME ,, THEREFOR NO ONE KNOWS WHO ACTUALLY THEY WERE !!! gpt500. Can you tell me the last name of Pilot the Governor of Judea, Mary the mother of Jesus! Joesph the eartly father of Jesus. Barnabus a supposed writer against the gospel(which is a 15th cent muslim fraud. Last names not used as is in late era...your point? I gave you opportunity to post multple comment and I have commented. NONE of lyour comment had any evidence like records of dates of manuscripts, what is known in sercular woorld as accurate manuscripting? I would expect that kind of questioning. NOT "SOME JEWS SAY". I woul ask to refrain from long extensive commentaries. Since you comment were on the Bible which I answered I will short comment on the Quran shortly. but would after this refrain from long literary comments. Thank you!
	gpt500 \| December 16, 2007 The documentary evidence at our disposal, prior to 750 A.D. "consists almost entirely of rather dubious citations in later compilations" (Humphreys 1991:80). Consequently, we have no reliable proof that the later Muslim traditions inal Qur'anic text (Schimmel 1984:4). Nor do we have any of the alleged four copies which were made of this recension and sent to Mecca, Medina, Basra and Damascus (see Gilchrist's arguments in his book Jam' al-Qur'an, 1989, pp. 140-154, as well as Ling's & Safadi's The Qur'an 1976, pp. 11-17).
	gpt500 \| December 16, 2007 Ramosay says ALLAH defended his prophets of doing all those unlafull acts !!!!! QURAN is COMPELETE theres nothing left in the world that QURAN HAS NO ANSWER TO THAT !!!! Gpt500> the manuscripts for the Qur'ann unlike 1st cent. papirus had more advancement in mansuscript documentation in the 7thcentury in which it was purported to have been compiled, in a century, simply do not exist. Prior to 750 A.D. (thus for 100 years after Muhammad's death) We should expect to find, in those intervening 150 years, at least speak truly of the life of Muhammad, or even of the Qur'an (Schacht 1949:143-154). In fact we have absolutely no evidence for the origremnants of evidence for the development of the old Arab religion towards Islam (i.e. Muslim traditions); yet we find nothing (Nevo 1994:108; Crone 1980:5-8).
	gpt500 \| December 16, 2007 ramosay says THEY WOULD ALWAYS AGREEID WITH THAT ,,,AND TELLS YOU THAT , THERE HAVE BEEN MISTAKE IN TODAYS BIBLE ? GPT500>> Conjecture. Show evidence, give text reference! That suggests that we either have a portion of the original gospel of Matthew, or an immediate copy which was written while Matthew and the other disciples and eyewitnesses to the events were still alive. This would be the oldest manuscript portion of our Bible in existence today, one which co-exists with the original writers! What is of even more importance is what it says. The Matthew 26 fragment uses in its text nomina sacra (holy names) such as the diminutive "IS" for Jesus and "KE" for Kurie or Lord (The Times, Saturday, December 24, 1994). This is highly significant for our discussion today, because it suggests that the godhead of Jesus was recognised centuries before it was accepted as official church doctrine at the council of Nicea in 325 AD.
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	islam123098 \| December 17, 2007 listion u pieace of shit..i dont care what ur fucked up faith is ALL i know is ISLAM is the best religion in the world ur religion is NOTHING to mine we are growing we are in Jihad and we are not evil people our god does not LIE our book (Quran) is not changed in any offcial WAY now shut the fuck up about Israel because thats a terrorist Organization. Allahu Akbar!!
	ramosay \| December 16, 2007 lets put this at the test ? 4 example the whole muslims and christians agree to chose a day to get the whole QURANS from around the world and the whole bibles any verssions of it nothing left of any verssion ? and put the whole QURAN and the bible into the sea right ? what well happen ? i tell you ,, the QURAN WILL BACK IN 2 OR 3 DAYS AS IT WAS BEFOR ,,HOW ? we will bring a muslim from china and 1 from africa 1 from america 1 from india ,,and they all will read from ch: 1 , ALFATIHA '' TO ANNAS '' the lst chpter NO DIFFERENCE ,,QURAN WILL BACK !!! but the bible will be lost and NO MORE ,, you know why ? coz first of all no 1 knows what the bible is 2nd theres to many verssions of bible 3rd no 1 is agree on the same bible coz they all have their own bible right ?
	ramosay \| December 16, 2007 did you know QURAN revealed to our prophet in period of 23 years and it was memorised and perserved by muslims at the same time it got revealed !!!!not only memorised ,,but actually followed the rules came for the muslims from allah , and they were reciting it in 5 time prayers , exactly like todays muslims ,,,in evry muslim today at least 1 person memorised the whole QURAN the rest memorised at least half of it !!! so that is the reason QURAN never was changed or rewrite or got lost ,, coz it was written in heart and in minds of muslims by memorising !!! but for christians no one knows what bible is ,,,and its impossible to memorise bible ,,first they have so many verssions second they are not the same 3rd no one is agree what bible is and the texts are not the same !!
	ramosay \| December 16, 2007 the first table of contence to the bible that reads the same as the contence to the bible now DATES FROM THE YEAR (367)MORE THEN (300)YEARS AFTER JESUS , finaly they they decided which books belong to bible ,,,,,point (2)the bible is in dead languages and the QURAN IS IN LIVING LANGUAGE WHICH (120 MILLIONPPL SPEAKS ARABIC ,THE LANGUAGE OF QURAN,,,,IN OTHER HAND THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN IN ANCIENT ARAMIC ANCIENT HEBREW AND ANCIENT GREEK, WHICH NO BODY SPEAKS ,,only a handfull of schlores knows it,,,,,
	ramosay \| December 16, 2007 we can see today theres so many verssions of bible are available and the some old bibles lives out some of the words in new bible and some new bible lives words from old bible`s, and the bible is not the same thing as QURAN at least for 3 reasons , (1)the QURAN has always been in the hands of his ppl , at the time of prophet his desciples and others memoraised it and wrote down no body ever disagreeid on what ever is the contence is ,,,,and when the prophet MUHAMMAD (SAW)died and his desciples met and agreeied by gethering all the writings of the QURAN and no body disputed it and no body aarguied about the contence or anything ,,,,, but the bible dosnt have this history , and the bible always been the property of the church not its ppl right ?
	gpt500 \| December 16, 2007 to ramosay: I appreciate your energy to write so much as you can see it makes it hard to have a meaningful dialogue. As for me and on my channel. I would prefer that we keep our discussions to a comment or two in the future. and if you must comment on something requiring a long explanation you email me. I look forward to dicussing whatever you want in that forum. Thanks
	gpt500 \| December 16, 2007 ramosay says well my friend ,, did you know non of the writers of the new testments wrote their last name ? THEY ALL SAID ACCORDING TO , ACCORDING TO ,,NON OF THEM NEVER PUT THEIR LAST NAME ,, THEREFOR NO ONE KNOWS WHO ACTUALLY THEY WERE !!! gpt500. Can you tell me the last name of Pilot the Governor of Judea, Mary the mother of Jesus! Joesph the eartly father of Jesus. Barnabus a supposed writer against the gospel(which is a 15th cent muslim fraud. Last names not used as is in late era...your point? I gave you opportunity to post multple comment and I have commented. NONE of lyour comment had any evidence like records of dates of manuscripts, what is known in sercular woorld as accurate manuscripting? I would expect that kind of questioning. NOT "SOME JEWS SAY". I woul ask to refrain from long extensive commentaries. Since you comment were on the Bible which I answered I will short comment on the Quran shortly. but would after this refrain from long literary comments. Thank you!
	gpt500 \| December 16, 2007 The documentary evidence at our disposal, prior to 750 A.D. "consists almost entirely of rather dubious citations in later compilations" (Humphreys 1991:80). Consequently, we have no reliable proof that the later Muslim traditions inal Qur'anic text (Schimmel 1984:4). Nor do we have any of the alleged four copies which were made of this recension and sent to Mecca, Medina, Basra and Damascus (see Gilchrist's arguments in his book Jam' al-Qur'an, 1989, pp. 140-154, as well as Ling's & Safadi's The Qur'an 1976, pp. 11-17).
	gpt500 \| December 16, 2007 Ramosay says ALLAH defended his prophets of doing all those unlafull acts !!!!! QURAN is COMPELETE theres nothing left in the world that QURAN HAS NO ANSWER TO THAT !!!! Gpt500> the manuscripts for the Qur'ann unlike 1st cent. papirus had more advancement in mansuscript documentation in the 7thcentury in which it was purported to have been compiled, in a century, simply do not exist. Prior to 750 A.D. (thus for 100 years after Muhammad's death) We should expect to find, in those intervening 150 years, at least speak truly of the life of Muhammad, or even of the Qur'an (Schacht 1949:143-154). In fact we have absolutely no evidence for the origremnants of evidence for the development of the old Arab religion towards Islam (i.e. Muslim traditions); yet we find nothing (Nevo 1994:108; Crone 1980:5-8).
	gpt500 \| December 16, 2007 ramosay says THEY WOULD ALWAYS AGREEID WITH THAT ,,,AND TELLS YOU THAT , THERE HAVE BEEN MISTAKE IN TODAYS BIBLE ? GPT500>> Conjecture. Show evidence, give text reference! That suggests that we either have a portion of the original gospel of Matthew, or an immediate copy which was written while Matthew and the other disciples and eyewitnesses to the events were still alive. This would be the oldest manuscript portion of our Bible in existence today, one which co-exists with the original writers! What is of even more importance is what it says. The Matthew 26 fragment uses in its text nomina sacra (holy names) such as the diminutive "IS" for Jesus and "KE" for Kurie or Lord (The Times, Saturday, December 24, 1994). This is highly significant for our discussion today, because it suggests that the godhead of Jesus was recognised centuries before it was accepted as official church doctrine at the council of Nicea in 325 AD.
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